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Date: Sat, 23 Jul 94 12:09:08 PDT
From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu>
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Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #833
To: Info-Hams
Info-Hams Digest Sat, 23 Jul 94 Volume 94 : Issue 833
Today's Topics:
ARLP029 Propagation de KT7H
Brown Sugar Net?
Elmers, please read (Re: CW)
Find all hams in a single USA city?
HELP-getting sticky velcro tape to stick? (2 msgs)
Home address or PO box on 610
license processing time datapoint
PC quiz programs for Nov. and Tech.?
QFS vs. QLF (Was: Elmers, please read)
Returning to Amateur Radio... (2 msgs)
RS Freq Counter?
TS 440 audio mods / filters
U.S. op in Canada?
Yes! I got my license...
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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 15:40:09 EDT
From: psinntp!arrl.org!usenet@uunet.uu.net
Subject: ARLP029 Propagation de KT7H
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
SB PROP @ ARL $ARLP029
ARLP029 Propagation de KT7H
ZCZC AP43
QST de W1AW
Propagation Forecast Bulletin 29 ARLP029
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Date: 22 Jul 1994 23:34:13 -0400
From: newstf01.cr1.aol.com!search01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Brown Sugar Net?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <1994Jul22.211606.20892@MITL.Research.Panasonic.COM>,
wiseman@ATVL.Research.Panasonic.COM (John Wiseman) writes:
>Anyone know what happened to the Brown Sugar Net? They brought on mainly
South
>Pacific stations around 14.309 MHz. if memory serves me correctly. I
last
>heard them about 5 years or so ago when I was living in New Mexico...
>
>John
>KA5WTO
The 93-94 net directory doesn't list them anymore. The 1989 net directory
lists WB6FBN as net manager. Might check with him as to what happened
to it.
Ray KA7DJR
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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 94 22:01:17 GMT
From: spcuna!starcomm.overleaf.com!n2ayj!n2ayj@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Elmers, please read (Re: CW)
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In an earlier post, cmoore@sedona.intel.com writes:
>>>maybe the ham community could just recommend against straight keys
To which I responded, in part...
>>... What happens when the battery dies in the keyer?
>>Or the computer goes on space-patrol?
Permit me a clarification. The thread began with a plea for teaching new
hams how to SEND intelligible code, in my interpretation. I inferred
code that was sent MANUALLY, with a straight key [maybe a bug :{)]. These
are the methods that are most prone to "bad" code. Hence my comment...
>>CW is a MANUAL skill...The lack of "hand-ear" coordination...
I have no doubt that almost anyone who has a basic grasp of language and
minimal computer skills can use a properly set up program to send good
(read intelligible) code. And if that's how you (editorial) choose to send
your code, God bless. The thrill in code FOR ME is the challenge of sending
"machine quality" (since that seems to be the standard) code with a
straight key [or a bug]. (See GRATIFYING ACHIEVEMENT sidebar.)
The emphasis on code RECEPTION is all well and good if all you intend to
do is LISTEN to code. If you are going for a two-way license, does it not
make sense to also know how to SEND? No, I am not a proponent of restoring
the sending test, but classes, of one or otherwise, should also give some
attention to sending code manually. IMHO, learning to send by hand involves
the op more fully in the learning experience, improving both send and
receive ability.
(Side query: Why assume that all prospective hams have computers? Or want
to use them for code? I do, and I don't. Hell, I even log by hand in
contests and then "backload", and it's not for lack of computer skill;
it's just the way I like to pursue my HOBBY. )
>... do you still use a slide rule?
As a matter of fact, I have a Pickett 1011-ES and a Pickett N-515-T.
I use them to demonstrate logarithms in basic electronics math review. :{)
>What if the battery on your calculator runs down?
Get out and push. My assumption is that if you are going to use a power
saw (the calculator) you already have a basic idea of how to cut wood
(calculate). But expecting people to learn real arithmetic in school is
another thread...
>If everyone used machine generated Morse code, the "Sucky Fist Syndrome"
>would disappear.
Agreed...but it wouldn't be as much fun FOR ME. There are two options to
SFS; stop talking to the guy, or send AGN until he gets the point. And
work on YOUR fist until it's a good example. I'm old fashioned, I guess;
I still think if you want something like a good fist, you can get it by
working at it, and that Elmer is supposed to be patient, wise, and kind.
>I personally use a very
>expensive straight key but when old age takes away my ability to send
>good straight key code, I will simply switch to a machine and keep going
>strong. If my battery dies and it's an emergency, I'm sure I could manage
>5 wpm with a couple of wires.
That's great, and I would probably do the same, even though I don't
particularly care for machine generating code (and that includes keyers -
don't own one, don't want one, wouldn't take one if you gave it to me.)
I use a Nye Viking key and a Vibroplex Standard because that's fun FOR ME.
I rather enjoy the me-against-the code aspect. That's what makes this such
a great hobby; there's room for everyone's interest.
>I haven't seen anyone mention that SuperMorse will send and receive CW
>through the serial port on the PC. It's all documented in the SuperMorse
>manual. People with SuperMorse could check their CW sending ability by
>tying a straight key into their PC.
Assuming, of course, that someone has impressed on them the need to learn
how to send. And in order to send clean, MANUAL code, they should use any
means to reach that goal, other ops as well as machine ears. We seem to be
having a heated agreement on this. :{)
I guess I'm a minimalist. I like barefoot radios and wire antennas. If
that's not YOUR thing, s'alright. But where is the harm in teaching the
most basic skills, like straight-key code? Like many other things you have
to know for your license nowadays, you blow off what doesn't interest you
once you've got your ticket in hand.
It's chicken soup; it can't hurt.
73
(GRATIFYING ACHIEVEMENT: Once I was working a FD CW station. Another op who
was working the phone station came over and said, "Hey, I heard you on the
other radio. Boy, does my homemade key..er....sound........good."
Yes, I was pounding brass.)
--
Stan Olochwoszcz, N2AYJ - n2ayj@n2ayj.overleaf.com
"This whole dot-dash concept sounds interesting, Mr. Vail. Why don't you
let me look at your notes on the train to the Patent Office." - S.F.B. Morse?
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 15:20:17 GMT
From: netcomsv!netcom.com!dgf@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: Find all hams in a single USA city?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
A ham here in town wants to identify all of the hams in ERIE, CO.
How could I help him do this?
Can you fetch the info and e-mail to dgf@netcom.com?
Thanx!
73 Dave WB0GAZ dgf@netcom.com
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Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 03:43:06 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!emory!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: HELP-getting sticky velcro tape to stick?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <markeh-220794121237@markeh.slip.netcom.com> markeh@netcom.com (MarkH) writes:
>Maybe someone here has some help for my problem. I have a mobile in my car,
>mounted in the trunk, with the control head stuck to the dash with sticky
>velcro tape. Well... not very sticky, since it keeps falling off.
>
>I seem to have partially fixed the radio side of the problem, by using
>strips of tape long enough to extend around the end of the control head and
>wrap around the ends. But I havn't been able to solve the dash side of the
>problem - the tape unsticks, and falls off after a few days.
>
>For several reasons, drilling holes is a poor solution, hence the velcro
>tape.
>
>Any suggestions???
The gelcoat on the dash plastic is too slick to allow the adhesive
to adhere properly. Take some sandpaper and sand the dash down until
the gloss is gone and the glue will hold. (Note that's uglier than
drilling a hole, almost everything is.)
Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 94 23:01:23 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!mvb.saic.com!news.cerf.net!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!cherry.atlanta.com!spcuna!starcomm.overleaf.com!n2ayj!n2ayj@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: HELP-getting sticky velcro tape to stick?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <markeh-220794121237@markeh.slip.netcom.com> markeh@netcom.com writes:
>
>Maybe someone here has some help for my problem. I have a mobile in my car,
>mounted in the trunk, with the control head stuck to the dash with sticky
>velcro tape. Well... not very sticky, since it keeps falling off.
<snip>
>problem - the tape unsticks, and falls off after a few days.
I've had a similar experience. Assuming you are taking about a padded
dash and you are flush mounting the head and not trying to hang it under
the dash...
The vinyl to which you are sticking must be SMOOTH and EXTREMELY clean.
Use an aggresive vinyl cleaner that will remove all traces of dirt and
Armor All-like substances. You also have to have an adequate sticky
surface area for the load of the head (i.e., enough tape).
Make sure the temperature is in the recommended range for application;
too hot or too cold, and it won't stick right initially. Otherwise,
subsequent temperature changes will cause it to detach. Press VERY hard
and evenly to make sure every bit of tape surface meets the dash.
If the gods of adhesion are smiling on you, all should go well.
(BTW, Velcro is a made-up noun, derived from velour and crochet. Just
thought you'd like to know. Pardon the pedantry.)
--
Stan Olochwoszcz, N2AYJ - n2ayj@n2ayj.overleaf.com
"Everytime I walk through the woods, I get these damn sticker bush things
all over my pants. Look at this. It's like....hey, wait a minute."
- The guy who invented Velcro?
------------------------------
Date: 23 Jul 94 18:40:00 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: Home address or PO box on 610
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
<You have two addresses to provide. One is your mailing address and the other
<is the location of your transmitter. Your mailing address can be where ever
<you want. Your transmitter address should be where you transmitter is.
<
<They can be the same but your transmitter address can't be a P.O. box.
<
<Kirk
oops. you only need supply a mailing address now. they haven't asked for the
physical station location for some time. this has been covered in the
newsletters and in the ham mags....(boy is that next edition of Now You're
Talking going to need some overhaul...)
use the address that will work for getting paper mail to you. if that's a p. o.
box, then fine.
73, bill wb9ivr
------------------------------
Date: 23 Jul 1994 11:16:59 -0500
From: terminus.intermind.net!news.sprintlink.net!bga.com!bga.com!nobody@uunet.uu.net
Subject: license processing time datapoint
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <1994Jul22.190336.3102@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com>,
George Lyle (233789) <glyle@isadora.seas.ucla.edu> wrote:
>We just had a whole slew of new hams appear on the local repeater.
>They tested in late May, so the wait seems to be down to 8-9 weeks.
>
>Another variable in this is the time that it takes for the VEs to
>get the data to Gettysburg. Most groups are very quick about it
>(particularly with the long waits lately), but some might take
>considerably more time to check and mail the paperwork.
>
>Something to ask about before getting tested.
Well, at least in the ARRL-VEC, the VEs are required to have all the
paperwork sent in within 10 days. (I think it's 10 days. I could be
wrong. But if I am wrong, it's something very close). The ARRL then has
a similar short amount of time to send the paperwork into the FCC. So,
when the wait gets to be 17 weeks, it's because the FCC is slow, not
because of anyone else.
I'm really confused now about how these folks are getting their licenses
in less than 10 weeks. I've got friends who tested in March and earlier
who are still waiting. Is there anyone left out there that has been
waiting for close to 17 weeks?
I offered a reason earlier as to why some folks were getting their
licenses so soon, but I don't think it would apply to ALL these folks...
There's got to be another reason...
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
| John Maultsby (maultsby@bga.com) | Broadcasting live from Austin, TX |
| Amateur callsign: KE4CLW | Professional Night Owl |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 16:43:34 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!a2i!bromgrev.a2i!bromgrev@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: PC quiz programs for Nov. and Tech.?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Looking for the latest versions of the quiz programs that build tests
out of the real question pool for my PC. Any body have an FTP
site and directory where I should look? Thanks!
--
Carl A. Merritt <bromgrev@rahul.net>
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 94 13:43:42 GMT
From: spcuna!starcomm.overleaf.com!n2ayj!n2ayj@uunet.uu.net
Subject: QFS vs. QLF (Was: Elmers, please read)
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <FAUNT.94Jul22084455@netcom11.netcom.com> faunt@netcom11.netcom.com writes:
>it only lists codes in that range. Interestingly enough, QST is
>undefined. I've not done a search to see if there's a signal that
>means the same as QLF defined, but I suspect not.
QST is a Made-in-Newington code essentially meaning "Attention all
interested radio amateurs".
You 'll also hear QN* codes that the ARRL has developed for use in nets.
73
--
Stan Olochwoszcz, N2AYJ - n2ayj@n2ayj.overleaf.com
"Please keep your seat belt securely fastened, keep hands and feet inside the
car at all times, secure loose items, exit to your right, and enjoy your day at
SixFlagsDisneyKing's GreatMagicDominionIsland BerryFarmGardensParkWorldLand."
------------------------------
Date: 23 Jul 1994 03:25:33 -0500
From: terminus.intermind.net!news.sprintlink.net!bga.com!bga.com!nobody@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Returning to Amateur Radio...
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <30ornh$b6r@tadpole.fc.hp.com>, Rod Cerkoney <rwc@cnd.hp.com> wrote:
> 20 years ago I drifted away from the hobby. Now Im planning my return. I
>have a few requests for help:
>
> 1. Can anyone recommend a good Macintosh and/or DOS program for
> learning Morse?
> [This FAQ didn't help much with this.]
SuperMorse would have to be the most popular morse code teacher. Now, be
forewarned... In my personal opinion, it bites the big one for teaching
the letters. If you've got something else to learn the letters with,
that would be better. However, SuperMorse can't be beat for increasing
code speed once you've learned the letters. So, it all depends on how
much you remember..
>
> 2. Does the ARRL still transmit practice code sessions?
> 2a. Is the schedule posted somewhere?
> 2b. Does anybody understand #2/2a, or am I that old? :-)
Code practice? ARRL? What on earth are you talking about?
<wide grin> Just kidding.... Yes, they still do that! I'm not positive
if a schedule can be found there, but there are lots of ham radio
files/ARRL informational files to be found if you FTP to
oak.oakland.edu. Check inside the /pub/ directory and it's called
hamradio, ham-radio, or something close. You'll see it. Start wandering
around in there and you should find plenty...
>
> 3. The current crop of study guides are OK for a quick start but I'd
> like to generalize and round out my knowledge. I'd also like to
> get up to speed with the new technologies, digital,
> satellites.... So, what's a good basic/fundamental library of
> books to obtain?
>
Not sure about what books to get, but the question pools are also
available at that FTP site. I don't know if it's just questions and
answers, or if it actually explains theory, but it's there all the
same... Money back guarantee if it isn't what you're looking for.. :)
Welcome back to the hobby!
73 from John, KE4CLW
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 94 23:11:10 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!mvb.saic.com!news.cerf.net!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!cherry.atlanta.com!spcuna!starcomm.overleaf.com!n2ayj!n2ayj@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Returning to Amateur Radio...
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <30ornh$b6r@tadpole.fc.hp.com> rwc@cnd.hp.com writes:
>
> 20 years ago I drifted away from the hobby. Now Im planning my return. I
>have a few requests for help:
>
> 1. Can anyone recommend a good Macintosh and/or DOS program for
> learning Morse?
> [This FAQ didn't help much with this.]
I like SuperMorse. I run DOS.
> 2. Does the ARRL still transmit practice code sessions?
Yes.
> 2a. Is the schedule posted somewhere?
It is printed periodically in QST, which is now available on newsstands,
starting with the July issue.
> 2b. Does anybody understand #2/2a, or am I that old? :-)
The League lives, W1AW still transmits. :{)
>
> 3. The current crop of study guides are OK for a quick start but I'd
> like to generalize and round out my knowledge. I'd also like to
> get up to speed with the new technologies, digital,
> satellites.... So, what's a good basic/fundamental library of
> books to obtain?
>
Again, ARRL has tons of books on various ham flavored topics in QST. Also
check "73", "CQ", "Ham Radio Fun" and other mags at newsstands.
Welcome back!
--
Stan Olochwoszcz, N2AYJ - n2ayj@n2ayj.overleaf.com
"Please keep your seat belt securely fastened, keep hands and feet inside the
car at all times, secure loose items, exit to your right, and enjoy your day at
SixFlagsDisneyKing's GreatMagicDominionIsland BerryFarmGardensParkWorldLand."
------------------------------
Date: 22 Jul 1994 18:55:21 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!pacbell.com!ohlone.kn.PacBell.COM!jlundgre@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: RS Freq Counter?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Wally Blackburn (wrb@ccsitn.cb.att.com) wrote:
: OK, OK, quit laughing. Has anyone tried the Rat Shack freq counter? Price
: is good. Switchable input impedance. Up to 1 Gig.
: --
: Wally Blackburn Clinton-Gore - Socialist Leadership
: wrb@ccsitn.cb.att.com for the 90s!
: Amateur Radio Station AA8DX I'm the NRA.
: '91 FXR DoD #1375
Knowing R-S, it's made for them by some other manufacturer, the question
is, who? or is it whom? Anyway, it might be made overseas, by a fairly
reputable company. The price seems reasonable.
I took a peek inside a H-P counter, might have been 8514, or something
like that, back in the early 80's. There was a transformer in the back,
and a small circuit board up front, with a lot of empty space in between.
It was a good counter, too.
--
=====================================================================
| John Lundgren - Elec Tech - Info Tech Svcs | Standard |
| Rancho Santiago Community College District | disclaim- |
| 17th St. at Bristol \ Santa Ana, CA 92706 | ers apply.|
| jlundgre@pop.rancho.cc.ca.us\jlundgr@eis.calstate.edu | |
=====================================================================
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Date: 23 Jul 94 16:41:09 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!paris.ics.uci.edu!ucivax!gateway@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: TS 440 audio mods / filters
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Anyone hop up their TS 440 with the AG6K suggestions for the
audio section and the distortion in the product detector? I would love
to talk about it.
Anyone have the IRCI filters in their 440 and install an extra switch
for the 455 IF filter to keep the ceramic as a choice? OR, have any
used some switching to keep the ceramic in line for transmit only?
Just curious. Trying to make my 440 a more liveable rig. It competes
against my Ten Tec Corsair, much quieter receiver, but no general
coverage and stuff. Would love to bring it up to better standards and
then look at the choice I am making :-)
Clark
WA3JPG
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Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 13:17:03 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!world!drt@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: U.S. op in Canada?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Joe Salemi (jsalemi@doghouse.win.net) wrote:
: Yes, there is, but make sure you have your original license with you.
: When you're in Canada, you have to id with your callsign, a slant, and
: the Canadian call district you're in. So if you're in Ontario, for
: example, you'd sign K9ZAT/VE3. You also have to identify the city and
: provence you're in at least once during a QSO.
I'd be interested in what your source is when you say you must have
your original license with you. GR2(9) says a photocopy is OK, and I
can't find anything in the rules that contradicts that for US
operators. Did you have any problems with a photocopy, or something?
-drt
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|David R. Tucker KG2S 8P9CL drt@world.std.com|
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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 03:17:00 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!montego!condor.ic.net!ucath!eric.bader@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Yes! I got my license...
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Well, I'm happy to say that I got my license in the mail today!
Now, I just gotta save up for a radio.. :-)
Passed Test: May 14 94
Effective Date (on License): July 14 94
Postmarked: July 18 94 -----\
v
And if I didn't go horribly wrong in my math: 9 Weeks 2 days
ttyl, KB8TUL
--
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... Curiosity didn't kill the cat, I got him with a 12 gauge.
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___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20f Beta
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